This is going to end poorly... False flag or not, the coup has given Erdogan an excuse to flush out and exterminate all who oppose him. Anyone want to take bets how long until NATO will revoke Turkey's membership?

What's the point of being a dictator? I sometimes think of really cool stuff one should do and think: "Well you would have to be a dictator to do that.". Maybe I am indoctrinated in Western propaganda but off the top of my had I cannot come up with a cause that is worthwhile enough to pursue if you consider the negative consequences of a dictatorship.

Maybe AI, space stuff or immortality - essentially the same thing. First of all I think these are overrated. The fun thing about these is the thought that "holy fuck we will actually do it!!". When it is there it will be like commercial aviation.

And even if you truly want to accomplish them by all means, the best strategy I can come up with is a) get the best of the best and b) throw all your money at them. If you perform a Gleichschaltung it will definitely harm your ability to throw money. So my dictatorship would consist mostly of cost cutting, economic incentives, educational reforms, reducing administration costs - essentially what every government claims to try anyway.

And to think that Turkey was considered for EU membership - That's definitely off the table now. It's a testament as to how quickly Turkey has declined.

Even without EU membership, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Turkish people will try to relocate to Europe and elsewhere. This would be a massive brain and capital drain for Turkey - Especially given that this is a country which was considered safe and progressive not so long ago...

Not sure what is going on. Dx cluster shows Turkish ham activity. sh/dx ta 14076.0 TA4SO 20-Jul-2016 2142Z <EA3OH> 14019.9 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 2101Z <W7SW> 14072.0 TA7DX 20-Jul-2016 2038Z CQ...PSK31 <JA3SWL> 10143.7 TA1CM 20-Jul-2016 1951Z <EW4R> 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1949Z tnx QSO <RT9AT> 10143.7 TA1CM 20-Jul-2016 1949Z cq rtty <SV3EXU> 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1946Z Tnx for QSO <DL3CQ> 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1938Z <JL1BDI> 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1937Z TNX <IZ7XZJ> 14016.0 TA3D 20-Jul-2016 1934Z <DF1LON>

If you broadcast amateur radio, is it possible to 'hide' from enforcement?

Are there mechanisms that an enforcement authority can use to find your physical location?

Is it possible to ostensibly rebroadcast a government-approved channel, but with additional stenography or mixing to embed information?

Archive: http://archive.is/Iutbr

That doesn't really bode well for Turkey.

FWIW the US did the same during WW1 and WW2 albeit under different circumstances.

Interesting. I can't seem the find the official press release for this. RTÜK web site doesn't seem to list anything, quoted TRAC organization web site is the same.

Am I missing something?

With the hobby already on it's last legs it's sad to see even 1 person loose their license. That's even without taking in consideration the political and social ramifications of these actions.

With an extra exam and a bit of time learning CW I can get news directly from people who live in countries around the world. Now that just isn't possible in some countries.

Looks like the article has been updated to indicate that this is false information (see the red text at the bottom):

"We’re happy to confirm that this news has been disproved we apologise for the false information given but apparently local hams from Istanbul city were interdicted from transmitting until yesterday"

They didn't revoke any ham license: http://www.dx-world.net/ham-radio-in-turkey/ At least not yet.

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Can we correct the headline to say "Turkish government"?

There a Turkish ham radio operators replying on the blog that they know of nothing of this kind. Maybe this "news" was made up?

N.B.: Update at bottom of article saying this information was wrong.

Interesting. I wonder if they will be allowed to remain in the ITU.

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Is he going to start revoking driver's licenses next? I doubt anyone could stage a successful coup if they're forced to use the bus.

Can anyone tell me why this article got flagged on HN????

I think it's time for the U.S. to erect an Armenian Genocide monument in D.C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

From almost a democracy to world's second North Korea, virtually overnight. Impressive. But I also think this will backfire badly for Erdogan.

Amateur radio operators are organized. They are an international auxiliary communication system. They are an information channel that is largely outside the control of governments. They are a human network.

I simply can't imagine what relevance that would have to the HN crowd.

Why has this been flagged?

I am flagging down all Turkey related threads these days. I don't see how political debates about the failed coup is a subject to be discussed on HN.