Night Shift Mode in macOS Sierra 10.12.4

  • Is there any evidence for Night Shift/f.lux having impact on sleep? Last time I attempted a review I found plenty of explanations but no evidence.

    A PNAS article about the use of e-Readers is often cited [0]. However, this compares a light emitting device to a book, and it's not clear how applicable it is to Night Shift vs. not Night Shift.

    There is some research about the affects of light at different wavelengths on the human sleep cycle but I'm wary about using that as evidence for the efficacy of something like f.lux or Night Shift without specific studies done on their use in practice.

    [0] http://www.pnas.org/content/112/4/1232.full.html

  • First iOS 9.3, then Android 7.0, upcoming Windows Insider builds, and finally macOS Sierra 10.12.4. I hope the GNOME/Unity/Cinammon developers start implementing this too. f.lux works as expected, but it starts to get warmer around an hour before my iPhone does. Small issue, I know, but it does get annoying over time.

  • My biggest disappointment with the new Macbook Pro is that it didn't include tunable color temperature for the keyboard. For an iPad, just changing the screen works because that's all it is. When your keyboard is a separate glowing thing, having your screen at 2200K and keys at 6500K looks awful. I used to turn the backlit keys off while running f.lux, but you're stuck with a touch bar at minimum now.

    Oh well.

    EDIT: Obviously the touch bar is full color and could be shifted like the screen. But because Apple's stance is that it's part of the keyboard, and the keyboard can't shift, I don't think they will. Curious if anyone's tested it though.

  • If you want you house lights to do the same thing, get some Philips Hue bulbs and this app I wrote: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/circadian-hue-for-philips-hu...

    My old office didn't get much external light, so I wrote this app to give me a sense of time of day. Now I have a better office I still use it.

  • Flux has been such a great tool. I love that Apple is copying that functionality and I hope the Flux team understands that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

  • I'm glad they added this. I was disappointed that it wasn't in the Sierra announcement. Guess they just needed a bit more time.

    I will be glad to finally be able to dump Flux. It's mind-bogglingly insane, but Flux still doesn't allow you to set a custom start and end time. I certainly don't need my screen going orange a full six hours before I go to bed. So I'll be getting away from it onto this official one the day it's available.

    I've tweeted them about it a few times, but they don't reply, and it's not open source, so I can't fix it myself.

    Plus, Flux is incompatible with fullscreen YouTube on the Macbook Pro, which is a really big problem too.

  • Has anyone produced a screen that isn't backlit in recent years? I see there's a 13" e-ink display (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/paperlike-world-s-first-e... ) but I don't know if it needs to be e-ink or simply not backlit. I worked last night to candle light and it was lovely; would like to be able to do the same on computer.

    Perhaps it's worth finding an old monitor to kill the backlight on to try this out.

  • I've used f.lux but the problem I find is that if I'm unwinding in the evening watching some youtube / netflix on my laptop the colour shift is quite annoying.

    By contrast, on my iphone I tend to not need accurate colour representation so the recently introduced Night Shift Mode is hardly noticed.

  • I'd love to see some form of universal dark mode or reverse mode on Macs and ios. Something that reverses backgrounds so I'm reading white text on black background. There are various workarounds, but it would be nice to not have to use them.

  • This is hardly a scientific review, but I definitely feel like I've started sleeping better since I started using Night Shift on my phone and f.lux on my MacBook. I seem to fall asleep faster and I don't toss or turn as much.

  • So glad to hear this. I've had so many problems with flux during the past year.

  • It's tough to get excited about macOS. F.lux is 7 years old. I am running Yosemite and I have to keep my own installer for new machines & restoration.

    I like nightshift, don't get me wrong, but I've never met someone who based their software ecosystem on a vendor provided way to change the color temp...

  • Nice feature. And at this point i have dilemma, i stopped os x updates after Apple decided to remove remaining battery time. I like f.lux idea, but sometimes have some problems with it, so i would like to test Night Shift. Hope remaining time will return with future update

  • Glad to see this is built in now, very useful on iOS and iOS apps

  • RIP Flux.

  • First they killed Flash, now it's Flux's turn.