Firefox Full-device VPN

  • I don't understand. Their partner is Mullvad. Mullvad has servers across the entire god damn globe. Why is this US-only? Why is it US-only going into early 2020, as in, months to provide service to non-US regions in what's probably going to be a limited roll-out to "select regions"? It's not the 90s anymore. It's time to drop the US-centric crap. They're not a publisher. They're not distributing movies or TV series.

  • With the pending sale of PIA to CyberGhost, I was looking for an alternative to Librem Tunnel. A lot of users on the Purism forum suggested Mullvad and it looks like this uses that. I'll definitely be trying this on Linux when it's available.

    It's a shame Purism picked PIA to partner with, I want to support the company but Librem Tunnel is the only feature justifying the $7.99/month Librem One fee for me and I don't want any of that going to CyberGhost. I use Librem Mail too, but they don't offer a price package that includes email without VPN.

  • Perhaps Mullvad is great. I don’t know. The whole VPN industry is full of shucksters, and when Mozilla says that Mullvad has “committed” to privacy doesn’t sound like enough heft to me.

    Why isn’t Mozilla running their own servers if this really is something worth getting into? They’re one of the few privacy and public good companies we have left.

  • Last time this was presented Mozilla mentioned a partnership with ProtonVPN.

    To any Mozillians reading this, what was the reason for the switch to Mullvad?

    Also will we be able to use our own standard Wireguard clients to connect?

  • I'm way below the technical skill average on HN, so can I prevale upon someone to correct me?

    This is just a vpn right? My existing vpn is already putting all device traffic through its servers (though it would actually be nice to turn it off for some apps, as I can't order takeaway because everyone thinks I'm in Iceland).

    And its $5 a month, which is about what I already pay.

    Plus its not available except on windows 10 (where its beta).

    And its US only

    What is Firefox/Mozilla offering me here that I don't get from NordVpn (who I hifhly recommend)?

  • So do they keep access logs for law enforcement? If this is the same VPN as Mullvard that means they don't? Could someone clarify maybe?

  • Mozilla need to clarify their relationship and perspective with ProtonVPN, especially because they always stay above the dirt slinging with the CEO of PIA claiming on HN and Reddit that ProtonVPN is a low credibility business.

  • To those who are curious (as I was), they use Wireguard and have partnered with Mullvad for the servers.

  • I might be paranoid a bit - I'm skeptical about "you can pick your location" feature. And generally I have a very little trust in US-based VPN service providers.

    No matter the location, they'll keep logs forever for the gov or some other equally unreliable entity.

  • I thought WireGuard was not yet ready for primetime, why is it being used here? I've been wanting to stand up a VPN at work to make my life easier than SSH tunneling but I was waiting for a 1.0 release of WG.

  • Watching Firefox sinking to essentially licensing its name like an obsolete fashion brand is sad.

  • So, the regular price is $5.00/month, but with that incredible partnership, it's only $4.99! This is a game changer!

  • So what is the benefit of getting this through Firefox instead of Mullvad? They want my email to sign up for the waitlist, but Mullvad requires nothing. Seems like it may even be linked to your Firefox account.

  • Given that they're rebranding Mullvad's service, I wonder if they'll still accept anonymous payments.

  • One the one hand, I'm glad they are using a trusted partner like Mullvad. On the other hand, why would you join a waitlist for a service that requires you to link your account to a US credit card--when you can literally mail cash to Mullvad and be completely anonymous.

  • I guess it is Mozilla's name behind it... but... I guess fundamentally... you still can't use shit like netflix or any other media services because they actively block vpns.

  • Why is the Mozilla Corporation diluting the Firefox brand like this?

  • Does Mullvad offer ad-blocking dns (like AdGuard)? Maybe Mozilla should start a beta program for this considering they are considered fairly trustworthy.

  • Mullvad vpn is very good which Firefox vpn is based on.

  • Shouldn't this be served from firefoxfulldevicevpn.com ?

  • just fyi opera has had a free built-in vpn for some time. works a peach.

  • This is how much it cost to run an outline vpn on digitalocean

  • A partnership with OVPN.com would have been much better with their high security focus. However, Mullvad is probably fine.

  • >Does Firefox Private Network log my browsing history?

    >Firefox is committed to protecting your privacy. Our privacy policy describes how we handle your data. The VPN is provided in partnership with Mullvad, who is committed to not monitoring or logging your browsing or network history.

    So in other words, Mullvad doesn't track you but Mozilla does. Is that interpretation correct?