Show HN: Kanmail – An email client that functions like a kanban board

  • Don't sell an email client, there is a reason they are all dead: too much effort, too many edge cases (POP3, IMAP, Exchange, Gmail...), not enough margins.

    Instead, sell me a hack that can make Outlook look like that. You worry exclusively about the UI, Microsoft does the heavy lifting behind the scenes.

    Best case: you make a ton of money by selling to actual businesses (rather than annoying geeks and other weirdos who dare use uncommon clients); slightly-worse case: you sell it to MS.

  • If there are people out there who are well invested into Gmail, then here's an alternative (https://klinger.io/post/71640845938/dont-drown-in-email-how-...) that does not require a separate client application. The initial concept is focused on desktop usage, but with a small modification it can be adapted to mobile-based working as well.

  • Jut a Headsup, Chrome blocked the download and a virustotal report look like this: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/2e78fed158e9e6857db7bfc6...

    6 engines detected this file

    Do what you want with this information, cloud be false positive, cloud be something else idk.

  • I'm a bit confused by the "open source but not free" statement in the readme. How common is it to refer to software with public source code as "open source"? I always thought the "open source" label applied only to those licenses officially certified as open source.

  • I actually setup something similar years ago with a gmail add-on. Was pretty intuitive and liked it. It would be advantageous to add additional features over this such as:

    1. Adding points or estimated workloads to emails.

    2. Adding notes to emails

    3. Snooze emails (which would drop their priority on the board, but stay in the same lane until post snooze).

    4. Highlight who is in the discussion thread.

    5. Rules for lanes of work (for instance potentially emails from boss should go straight to “in progress”)

  • Kanmail is built using pywebview, which is an interesting alternative to Electron. Lighter distributions thanks to using respective OS’s native web view.

  • This looks great! I’ll give it a try. Congrats on launching! Email is a great communication mechanism, but as a manager, it’s so hard to corral the process of following up on emails that take many days for people to do. It would be awesome if each column could have a suspended area at the bottom and I could set due dates and they would sort into that separate section until they are due.

  • Looks good. I follow this 16 year old on Twitter named Ethan, and he's built something similar: https://kanbanmail.app. I know of him due to his prevalence in the indie maker community, and he streams his development on Twitch sometimes.

  • The package.json in that repository says "MIT". How does that work with the propietary license agreement?

    I also wonder if the author has any way to prevent copyleft code entering their project. What would be a nuisance for a free software project could potentially kill a commercial one like this.

    I do not mean this as a comment against copyleft or this particular project, I am really interested to know if there is a Semi-Automatic license scanner.

  • Very cool! It looks like the primary focus here is displaying the messages in multiple folders at the same time; I like the message opens where it has space to open.

    The account management settings page mentions needing an application password for Gmail — you'll also need one to add a Fastmail account (it looks like it retrieves through IMAP and sends through SMTP).

    When I added an account, the account's existing folders weren't displayed to me anywhere (I was expecting the sidebar), but it looks like you can add a column for an existing folder and it'll just work.

    It also looks like the action of dragging a message from one column to another removes it from one folder and adds it to another, which makes sense for a kanban board, but might get a little weird with Fastmail's labels mode, where a message can exist in multiple folders! (https://beta.fastmail.com/help/receive/labels-beta.html)

  • Would love it if any client would support grouping all messages per senders unique email and topic, sorted by date.

    The result is almost like a conversation. It makes it easier to see each topic as well.

    So far, I've only seen "Unibox" client on MacOS do this. (Not updates since 2018)

  • That look super slick, congrats on launching it! It still looks a bit "noisy" to me, maybe you can reduce the information density a little as to me it seems a bit overwhelming. Super useful idea though and surely something that can be a success!

  • Thank you for using a model that respects users' freedom! I happily pay for source-available software, sometimes even when I don't really need it that bad, because I like to support ethical software :-)

  • I have been wanting an email client where I can simply drag and drop emails as a TO-DO Kanban board. I will definitely give this a try.

  • Is the $25 license per user or per machine, and per year or perpetual?

  • This is one reasone that keeps me on Apple's Mail.app: open multiple windows for different mailboxes / folders / smart mailboxes and drag & drop at will between them.

    Keep a window for specific smart folders if there are special keywords / people you want to give priority. Tuck it in a corner of the screen without taking up lots of realestate.

    To be fair, Apple really screwed that workflow in 10.15 by disallowing customization of columns like they used to have since 10.0. But still, the multi-window organization is so much more flexible than the all-in-one-window setup. (For those concerned with tidiness, a window manager takes care of that problem.)

  • One thing that I think should be clarified regarding licensing: On the license page it says "Licenses are $25 during the beta period.". It is not clear if this means either:

    1) During the beta period, a lifetime perpetual license is 25$

    2) License for the duration of the beta period costs 25$. After that you may or may not need to renew your license.

    This looks really interesting, but I think there are others who are hesitant to invest into something that may end up costing ongoing licensing fees that are yet to be determined.

  • I am trying this and I think I will move away from my over-configured "mutt" setup, just to use it.

    My only "suggestion" is to please keep it functional and simple.

  • I installed this and used it for a day. This UX model is dramatically better for business mail than the standard mess of random folders. Kanmail itself is still pretty early stage. It's too raw for my own day to day usage, but I'll check back later. I hope it keeps going.

  • this looks amazing, will try it out. having the option show messages from all accounts at once is a blessing for me.

  • Reminds me kanbanmail.app was in Hackers News 2 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17576024

  • My wife has a manual system for exactly the system in the screenshot, so I thought she would like it. "Nah, can't use it on my phone".

  • I've been doing Thunderbird with quick folder extension to achieve near the same functionality however in Tabbed view.

    nonetheless a great idea. will test it soon.

  • It seems like that the software doesn't have STARTTLS, so it doesn't work with Protonmail's Bridge :/

  • If this were solely a Gmail extension I would be 100% in and pay about $25/month.

  • If it has dark mode and good Linux support, I'll buy it. Will try out tomorrow.

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  • for any service whose core data is a 'collection of things', BYO prioritization & queueing makes a lot of sense

    too bad integration is really hard or this would be general

  • Love it, but calendar is so tied to Outlook. Please save us!