Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

  • The founders of Diaspora were in a really unenviable position. They started off with a wave of national press as well as solid financial support from grassroot users. As time went on, it became increasingly clear that they would not be able to accomplish the goal they originally set out to do. They had failed. Publicly. This can be very devastating psychologically to someone who has always 'succeeded' in life.

    I'm not saying this was the case for Ilya, or had any part in his death, but I know for me it would have been hard to swallow. There are many silent founders out there that gave up everything for an unrealized dream in the path to startup success and it has a real toll on psyches.

    Best wishes to his family & friends.

    EDIT: This appears to be a very controversial comment. The vote count seems to be oscillating up and down very rapidly. I don't want to make this out to be a discussion about Diaspora, so I won't comment further on that point. But the mental health of founders is a real issue and rarely discussed. Maybe there should be a more open discussion about this issue.

  • Horrible. This news is so tragic I really can't focus on anything else now. Which is probably the way it should be.

    Our community stresses the importance of achievement, success, and technology so much that it's easy to forget what's really most important: each other. Sometimes it takes terrible news like this to jerk us back to that reality.

    I never knew Ilya, but if any of his friends of family visits this forum, please know that many thoughts and prayers are with you.

    I have no idea what was behind this, so just a few (possibly related) thoughts:

    - Let's never forget that everything we do is for other people. They outrank all the ones and zeros. Go hug someone important to you.

    - If you ever believe the possibility of something like happening is > .00001, do something, anything. If you don't know what to do, contact me (see my profile) and I'll help in any way I can. Nothing can be more important.

    - This was the ultimate failure. I'm so sorry to hear this and hope that Ilya's family and friends somehow find peace.

  • The death of the founder of any well-known startup merits mention here. The startup community is a close knit global one, we don't just meet each other at professional networking events, we share our lives with each other.

    Perhaps unlike any other profession we have a closeness that binds us, we socialize, we date, we make lifelong friends from within the startup community.

    Even if we don't know the startup founder directly we know of their work, their successes and their failures, their contribution to the story of the startup world.

    Speculation suggests that it may have been self-inflicted, even if it's not true, it's worth stepping back and appreciating the fact that startup founders often find themselves under immense pressure and often keep it quiet.

    When's the last time you asked someone how their startup was doing to get a reply "not so good", founders are expected to be eternal optimists and this expectation can make it harder for those struggling or suffering to ask for help from their friends (who are often from the startup world themselves).

    Maybe we need a Startups Anonymous to give founders a place where they can drop their public persona and be honest about the worries that are keeping them up at night.

  • There are rumors that his death was self-inflicted, which is quite sad. Every time we see a young smart kid die like this, it should remind us to remember others as we go through our lives. Too often we ignore other peoples feelings, and then something like this happens. Take a moment to talk to the people you love to make sure something like this doesn't happen to them.

    (If it turns out this is inaccurate, please excuse the speculation, but I still think this is important.)

  • Ilya was an incredible person. His heart was truly driven by bringing about positive change in this world. Diaspora was only the beginning.

    He was genuinely one of the kindest people I've ever met. Along with that, one of the most driven and intelligent peers I've ever encountered. Any time I ever had a chance to converse with him, it was always a very pleasant experience. He was someone I felt I had truly connected with. I only wish I could tell him that now.

    Take care buddy. Thank you for enlightening me.

  • On a flight from San Francisco to New York I had the good fortune to run into this gentleman. He was kind, thoughtful, and had a very deep sense of commitment to those who had donated funds and had put their hopes into Diaspora. His picture is one I expected to see again, just not like this.

  • Fuck everything about this piece of news. I knew him. I can't believe I'm finding this out by logging into HN. Fuck.

  • I just met Ilya a few weeks ago at Noisebridge.

    As a community we rarely talk about the darker side of a startup. We make it seem like ancient Roman warriors on the quest to glory. In reality it can be a dark, depressing road. Depression is real and can hit harder than anything you've ever experienced.

    How many people talk about how depression? How at times things will seem so hopeless that you won't have anywhere to turn? It is certainly not the most popular topic.

  • Why don't we wait for official comment before speculating on the cause of his death. The last thing his family/friends/coworkers need is false rumors. Not saying they're necessarily false or correct, I just think we should wait out of courtesy. I know I'd hope people do that if I died...

  • This is too sad. Only 21 for goodness sake; his life was just beginning. Even without having known him, this feels painful and I cannot imagine what his family and friends are going through. I'm reminded of a Yoruba (West African language) saying to "kill someone alive", i.e. effect of something so painful on a person such that although technically alive, for all intents and purposes, he/she is dead. How does one possibly (if ever) recover from losing a child/sibling/friend in this way?

    My condolences to all who knew him.

  • Wow. I never met Ilya in person, but I spoke with him several times via a private mailing list of people doing social network research. This is incredibly unfortunate. In my limited interactions with him he was always incredibly intelligent and willing to help out others.

  • I'm reminded of Gene Kan, but I am unsure if the circumstances are similar:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kan

    The similarities are that there was considerable press coverage of Diaspora and that they seemed, at least to me, destined to fail mostly just because it was a hard thing to do given their structure. It is a true shame that this individual took the failure personally as it wasn't at all his fault, again it was primarily structural in my opinion. Gene Kan I understand was somewhat susceptible for other reasons to depression.

  • Vitamin D levels affect state of mind, and if you're coding through the night and sleeping through the day, you're probably low on Vit D levels - or rather, you could be a lot higher if you wanted to.

  • Anyone passing at such a young age is simply a massive tragedy.

  • I find it very saddening that so many people here are speculating that Ilya committed suicide. It's disrespectful to speculate, especially in such a case. Get a life.

  • I am touched by the loss of Ilya.

    Kipling's "IF" seems an appropriate addition to the discussion thread tonight. --- IF.....

    IF you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too; If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breathe a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, ' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch, if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you, If all men count with you, but none too much; If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

    --- Thank you Ilya.

  • "Zhitomirskiy committed suicide, a source close to the company confirmed to CNNMoney."

    http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/14/technology/diaspora_cofounde...

  • Holding out hope here... but this whole ball started rolling with one tweet like 14 hours ago. I haven't seen a single source confirm anything yet. Any chance the net is getting punk'd right now?

  • Things like this often give me pause for thought. Often this community, and indeed myself, drive myself to attain better results, and generally push towards a wealthy career, so often we can forget what is truly important.

    I'm a religious person, so often this translates to worrying about how I'm prepared should I also meet an early grave, but its important that in times like this that we also see the importance of others in our lives, our family, relationships etc.

    Easy to forget that the thing we work so hard for can be wiped away in a split second.

    My deepest sympathies to all involved.

  • Much too young. The poor guy.

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  • We'll miss you, Ilya. Thanks for your guidance and friendship.

  • So sorry to hear that Ilya's gone. I only had a chance to meet him a few times, but I found him intelligent, thoughtful and friendly.

    I don't know the circumstances of his death, but I do hope that his family and colleagues get to see what an impact it's had on the hacker community.

    I look forward to hearing ways that they'd like us to honour his passing; until then I'm going to do it the way I know best -- keep hacking.

  • Very sad news. My sincere condolences to his family and friends.

  • How did he die?

  • If rumors are true, my finger is pointing to the get-rich-easy self-promotion advocates like [you know who]. There are many kids in the coming generation who took their nonsense too seriously, sometimes like a cult. Just to make a few bucks selling books. No harm done, right?

  • Sometimes deep (non-organic) depression can be a clue to the revelation that you've been untrue to your own nature. The depression is an opportunity to review what you've been doing, what you've been missing, and make plans to recreate your life in a way that's more positively rewarding.

    It's awful to see young lives wasted in this way... whether they're 'promising' in conventional ways or not. Many people have made it through The Abyss to go on to great things - which can include things that are completely unimportant to society at large. No need to be engulfed by the values of others. Be true to yourself.

  • This is now the top story on the front page of Yahoo UK, with a large picture of Ilya. I'm not sure what to make of that.

    I suppose one thing we can learn here is to be more sensitive about other peoples' work. Sometimes tech-related articles/comments/rants take a very harsh tone, and even though it might be valid criticism, it's easy to forget that some developer might have poured his/her heart and soul into what you're dismissing (or even ridiculing).

  • "We shall have to work faster."

    http://yudkowsky.net/other/yehuda

    Even if it was suicide, this too we will overcome.

  • Considering loneliness is often associated with depression and suicide, it's interesting that his project was pure social networking.

  • Very sad to hear. My sincere condolences.

  • In case the other thread won't bubble to the front page (though I expect it will):

    CNN confirmed it was suicide: http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/14/technology/diaspora_cofounde...

  • Very sad news indeed.

    I hope the passing of a co-founder doesn't result in the passing of the project as well.

  • Baruch dayan H'emet. This is very tragic. Nothing else to say. Rest in peace.

  • Regarding telling suicidal people to think about the people who care about them before taking their lives...some suicidal people don't have anyone who cares about them. That's why they're suicidal.

  • Poor man. I've been through some of what he must have experienced to come to his conclusion and it's very unpleasant. I hope his family and friends are all OK.

  • 22 years. That's no time at all, not on this planet.

  • Extremely sad over the untimely death at a very young age. May his soul RIP. Prayers and condolences to all his near and dear ones.

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  • RIP. So young :/ not that it makes much of a difference now, but I hope it was peaceful.

  • This is extremely shocking! He was much too young! :(

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  • So sad. Rest in peace.

  • Rest in peace.

  • Rest in peace.

  • so sad :(

  • This is really sad. My condolences to his friends and family.

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  • Who let people start dying this fall!!?!

  • this somehow reminds me of the movie "Antitrust" ...

  • what a senseless death

  • What purpose do stories like this serve? People consider asking for details to be rude. Other than tabloid style storytelling drama, why else should strangers care?

    This man died young, but so did the local 19 year old young woman killed just after midnight by a driver just after she rescued an injured dog from the road.

    You can already see someone saying the cause of death does not matter, but why does this death announcement matter?

    edit: Poster removed his admonishment regarding questions about the cause of death.

    People close to this person obviously will suffer due to their loss, but his death announcement gets posted here in some sort of limbo where no one (or very few) knew him. But we must respond with condolences to people we don't know about a person we only know though his involvement in a web application.

    edit2: Twitter messages directed at the deceased indicate suicide.

  • I hope he had a cryonics contract.

    ....

    In reading the above, some people might think it insensitive to 'peddle' this here, and I almost censored myself because of that.

    But that's not helpful at all.

    People are dying unnecessarily because they don't understand physics, cognitive neuroscience, and the possibilities the future allows.

    May he live again conditional on him being cryo-preserved. Otherwise, it is sad news that yet another human has been annihilated.