Some people hate success, or more accurately, they hate the success of others. There are people on HN who want Apple to fail. There are people who want Google to fail. There are people who want Microsoft to fail. There are people who want Amazon to fail. There are people who want Facebook to fail. And so on and so forth.

When any of the giants stumble with a mistake or show a sign of weakness, the people who want them to fail pounce with extreme agitation.

The important thing to remember is they didn't come to HN to contribute, instead, they came here to push their agenda and argue.

Yeah, let's just assume Apple was brave enough to launch an iterative product for once, forgetting to label it 'beta' and accidentally shutting out competition.

Hint: flagging stuff tends to be more effective than posting to "Ask HN".

I get tired of the redundancy. However, as specifically regards the maps story.

- Apple heavily markets its "refinement" and "excellence". They just shipped a product that blows.

- It's been about a year since Jobs passed. There was and continues to be much speculation whether Jobs was essential to Apple's performance (technical as well as financial). Well...

- Apple vs Google. The saga continues...

- Apple as monopolist. They may eventually get maps right. But in the meantime, they can more or less screw their users over in order to force this change. Remember, it took Microsoft "three revisions" to get many of its now well-regarded products to a performance point that induced large scale consumer acceptance. Is Apple playing that game, now?

- Lots of people apparently depend on maps, daily and heavily. They are rightly upset.

So... there's a lot going on with and underneath this story. In addition to the Schadenfreude.

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